WITH “Plebgate” still ringing in our ears like a bicycle bell, now is not a good time to be Chief Whip. Unless you’re Charles Dance, who is playing a fictional one in new C4 drama Secret State.
But Dance, 66, says his character in the latest adaptation of former MP Chris Mullin’s book A Very British Coup is not cut from the same cloth as the recently resigned Andrew Mitchell.
“I don’t think he’s the kind of man to ride on his bicycle through the gates and abuse policemen, that’s for sure,” says Dance.
The actor, who made his name in the 1980s serial The Jewel In The Crown and recently played Lord Tywin Lannister in Game Of Thrones, plays Downing Street official John Hodder.
He’s a shady
character who helps manoeuvre colleague Tom Dawkins (played by Gabriel Byrne)
into the top job when the Prime Minister’s plane crashes in mysterious
circumstances
“John is very much a kind of father figure to him, and
there’s not much going on that he doesn’t know about,” says Dance.
“He’s always there, hovering around, offering advice
and making sure Tom doesn’t put a foot wrong, and he doesn’t mince his words.”
The
conspiracy drama, which kicks off as a nuclear explosion destroys a Teesside school – and many of its pupils – doesn’t pull
any punches, and explores such pressing issues as state surveillance, terrorism
and corporate responsibility.
Dance, for
one, hopes it’ll make viewers ask questions about what is going on.
“I’m always intrigued,” he says, “whether there’s much
we do that Big Brother doesn’t know about.
“I suspect what came out of the Leveson Inquiry about
people’s phones being hacked by tabloid newspapers is pretty small fry compared
to what goes on at GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters).”
The actor
makes no bones about his own political views, which he describes as extremely
left-of-centre.
“I don’t really like what’s going on at the moment.
The wrong people are having to pay for what the right people did, and the
recent debacle with the railway franchise? It takes your breath away,
really,” he says.
Though
Byrne’s character in Secret State is a politician with principles who believes
in open government, Dance reveals that he believes there are no such credible
characters in our current House.
Is there absolutely no one he admires?
“Not really, darling, no,” he says. “They don’t
inspire one very much, any of them, and I think it’s a great shame. If there
was a lot more to Boris than rather amusing bluster, he might be a likely
candidate, but he’s just very good entertainment value at the moment.”
Speaking of entertainment value,
Dance provided some of his own a couple of months back on bawdy chat show Ronna
& Beverly.
The usually reserved actor was put in the hot seat and subjected to the
comedy duo’s trademark intimate line of questioning, and Jewish housewife
“Beverly” appeared to be particularly titillated by his presence.
“They’re mad as snakes those two,”
recalls Dance with a hearty “har, har,
har” laugh.
Perhaps because he has a voice made to be projected to the back of the
National Theatre, and enough gravitas to make you quake in your boots, Dance is
not often asked to do comedy.
“In this business you are what you’re
seen to be. If you’re seen to be austere or villainous that’s what you tend to
be offered, and we have bills to pay so we tend to say yes, unless there’s
money in the bank to say no,” he says.
This is a shame, as one suspects Dance has a mischievous side …
“Oh God yes, darling!” he confirms.
“I have got to the age where I don’t care very much any more.”
So luckily for him, off the back of his guest appearance on Ronna &
Beverly, he was cast in a short comedy film for Channel 4 called Bad Grandad.
“He’s a retired rock’n’roll tour
manager and it was so far removed from what I’m normally asked to do, so I
couldn’t say no and I had a hoot doing it,” he says.
Next up, he’s shooting two Australian films and is also hoping to finance
two films of his own. Dance went behind the camera for 2004’s Ladies In
Lavender, a film which brought together Dames Maggie Smith and Judi Dench, and
of which he is immensely proud.
“It was a film with no dramatic car
chases, no enormous stunts, no rumpy pumpy,” he recalls. “It sat on the circuit
for a few weeks, it was one of the few films that made money for the British
Film Institute and is a stocking-filler for everybody’s maiden aunt and
grandmother.”
He’ll be back in Belfast next year to film the next series of Game of
Thrones and has no plans at all to slow down.
“I used to share an agent with John
Gielgud and in his 90s he was phoning our agent and saying, ‘Hello, Johnny
Gielgud here, any work?’ Now that’s fantastic,” says Dance, “Har, har, har.”